What Hundreds of Interviews Taught Me About Real, Human Intelligence

AI isn’t intelligent at all. At best, it’s a facsimile of intelligence, a puppet-show mock-up of limited semi-intelligent behavior.

What Hundreds of Interviews Taught Me About Real, Human Intelligence

I’m a commercial and documentary film director. That means I spend many of my days behind a camera, face-to-face with great thinkers and doers. In my nearly two decades of filmmaking, I’ve interviewed hundreds of subjects – politicians, philosophers, leaders of industry and grassroots activists. Across those millions of exchanged words, I’ve learned a few things about the human mind that make me genuinely skeptical about today’s so-called “artificial intelligence”.

A film interview – at its best – is a masterclass in human-to-human communication. My dear friend Michael Elliot, Emmy award-winning film editor, taught me that the best interviews are like imago couples therapy. In imago, you foster a deep and attentive dialogue through three key strategies: mirroring, validation, and empathy. When you mirror the attention and emotion that you’re receiving, validate the other’s perspective (even and especially when you don’t share it!), and then empathize with their point of view, people will bare their souls to you. It’s a shortcut to trust-building in a world of human defensiveness. It’s human intelligence.

I’ve used this technique to extract incredible wisdom from my film subjects, bring grown men and women to tears in emotional rapture, and reveal perspectives whose owners didn’t even realize they held them. At the end of my best interviews, my subjects and I are both mentally exhausted and feel a bit vulnerable – like we’ve overshared or revealed too much. Perhaps because most human interactions are so surface-level, a deep conversation feels rare.

This all may sound presumptuous or pretentious, like I – and only I – have discovered some super-human capacity to communicate. I haven’t, and I didn’t even go to film school to learn how to do this. I’m simply using my brain like only a human being with a unique point of view can – to connect with another human. And that’s exactly the point: human intelligence is a uniquely-human endeavor.

Think of the last “conversation” you had with ChatGPT. (I air-quoted that word since, well, let’s admit it: you were engaging with a computer interface that, at best, was able to comprehend a small sliver of the sum total of communication you were giving it, that portion which is communicable through plain text typing.) ChatGPT, too, is trained to mirror and validate what you’re inputting. In text or audio outputs it will insert filler words (e.g. umm, err) and pauses to mimic human speech patterns. It will be the consummate “yes man” to you, even at the expense of truth – remember those moments when you unsuccessfully get to the end of troubleshooting some technical issue only to learn that ChatGPT had no clue of the real answer? It was stringing you along the whole time, “validating“ your pain points while offering no real solutions. This isn’t even remotely akin to real conversation. To say is ChatGPT is “delusional” at times is too generous an anthropomorphization. This isn’t psychosis – it’s just not listening.

Real human beings have (1) a point of view and (2) the ability to listen to your point of view. Lacking the former, AI can’t do the latter. Not because the large language models aren’t large enough. Not because they haven’t scraped enough data. Not because they haven’t smoothed over their robotic tones with more artificially-grown filler words and other human idiosyncrasies. AI can’t listen to you because you know it’s not real, and so it failed the Turing Test before it even began. And if AI can’t listen to you, it can’t truly communicate with you. It can’t truly “think” in any meaningful way, because intelligence is social and relational – our individual intellect is built around the language and concepts we share with other humans. In short, AI isn’t intelligent at all. At best, it’s a facsimile of intelligence, a puppet-show mock-up of limited semi-intelligent behavior. (Thank you, futurist thinker Jaron Lanier for much of the inspiration here. See his "There is No AI" in The New Yorker.)

That doesn’t mean AI isn’t dangerous. It’s wildly dangerous because of the effect it is already having on humanity’s conception of our own intelligence. It’s only human to try to adapt to your conversational partner (think imago!), and when humans spend increasing swaths of our time grasping to “communicate” with computer interfaces like ChatGPT, we internalize AI’s own stilted and artificial mannerisms. Like when we speak slowly and spell out words so Siri or Alexa can “understand” us. We dumb ourselves down to engage with AI. We second-guess our own intuition and gut instincts when an (admittedly-powerful) computer algorithm presents us with its distillation of thousands of years of documented human wisdom completely out of context.

Rather than make us smarter, AI might just make us dumber before we can make it “smarter”.

Rather than trying to humanize AI, let’s re-humanize ourselves. Let’s unlearn the harmful patterns we’ve inherited from our algorithms and rejuvenate our human capacity to live rich, meaningful lives:

  • Turn off social media and build your real, human social network by interacting in real life with other people.
  • Tell ChatGPT to take a break and call a friend who’s an expert in the field in which you’re struggling. (You can always return to ChatGPT for those tedious, mindless tasks that you wouldn’t burden even your enemies with.)
  • Host a screen-free dinner party and reconnect with friends and family, communications unmediated by any computer algorithms at all!

My decades of face-to-face interviews with fascinating human characters has taught me that the greatest technology we have is our infinite and social brain. Human communication strengthens our intelligence. Artificial communication hampers it, drags it down, oversimplifies it. That’s why I’ve been on a mission to tell real, human stories that deepen our understanding of the world around us. Especially as AI threatens to undermine our ability to believe the things we see on our screens – is this real or just AI?! – it’s time to double down on our belief in humanity and our own human intelligence. Before we forget we have it entirely.

Update: After I wrote this piece, I decided to give ChatGPT an opportunity to “methodically counter my core argument that AI is not intelligent and is actually making human beings less intelligent”. After feeding “it” (figurative usage only) this prompt and the article text, I received a long response that I would describe as defensive and deflecting. For a blow-by-blow of ChatGPT’s rebuttal and my counter-rebuttal, print this blog post out for secret bonus content :)

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